Can a City change street names with a COC for final map. The City Engineer and I read the following differently. I interpret the listed items following “including but not limited to” … are items that affect property rights. Appreciate any County Surveyor thoughts. Note, there are no spelling errors. Strictly complete name change. Thanks in advance.
66469
Final or Parcel Maps May be Amended by a Certificate of Correction or Amending Map CERTIFICATE OF CORRECTION After a final map or parcel map is filed in the office of the county recorder, it may be amended by a certifica... •.........
or an amending map for any of the following purposes:
(a) To correct an error in any course or distance shown thereon.
(b) To show any course or distance that was omitted therefrom.
(c) To correct an error in the description of the real property shown on the map. (d) To indicate monuments set after the death, disability, retirement from practice, or replacement of the engineer or
surveyor charged with responsibilities for setting monuments. (e) To show the proper location or character of any monument which has been changed in location or character originally
was shown at the wrong location or incorrectly as to its character. (f) To correct any additional information filed or recorded pursuant to Section 66434.2, if the correction does not impose any additional burden on the present fee owners of the real property and does not alter any right, title, or interest
in the real property reflected on the recorded map. (g) To correct any other type of map error or omission as approved by the county surveyor or city engineer that does not affect any property right, including, but not limited to, lot numbers, acreage, street names, and identification of adjacent
record maps. As used in this section, "error" does not include changes in courses or distances from which an error is not ascertainable
from the data shown on the final or parcel map.
[Amended, Chapter 176, Statutes of 2001]
Certificate of Correction - Street Names
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(c) To correct an error in the description of the real property shown on the map. What would be a quick and simple way to describe the parcel of land commonly known as "Subman Street" other than, oh, say, "Subman Street"?
(f) To correct any additional information filed or recorded pursuant to Section 66434.2...
§66434.2(b) Additional survey and map information may include, but need not be limited to:
(g) To correct any other type of map error or omission as approved by the county surveyor or city engineer that does not affect any property right, including, but not limited to, lot numbers, acreage, STREET NAMES,
But what the heck do I know.
1 more week.
(f) To correct any additional information filed or recorded pursuant to Section 66434.2...
§66434.2(b) Additional survey and map information may include, but need not be limited to:
(g) To correct any other type of map error or omission as approved by the county surveyor or city engineer that does not affect any property right, including, but not limited to, lot numbers, acreage, STREET NAMES,
But what the heck do I know.
1 more week.
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Street name changes would adhere to CA Gov’t Code 34091.1.
COC’s are for correcting errors, such as a spelling error in a street name, not to make changes.
If it is truly a change then be sure to also notify the postal service and county the city is located in. Be sure the city building department is involved in the Council’s resolution and that there is public notice and a hearing.
COC’s are for correcting errors, such as a spelling error in a street name, not to make changes.
If it is truly a change then be sure to also notify the postal service and county the city is located in. Be sure the city building department is involved in the Council’s resolution and that there is public notice and a hearing.
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Good point, Steffan. There is a list of agencies and public utilities to be notified for new or changed addresses, including the County Assessor. There are other statutes within the Government Code - particularly with respect to Counties - that "address" this procedure.
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To be clear. There is no omission or spelling error. The City has changed its mind and wants new street names on several streets within the subdivision after they approved/signed the map and recorded it.
I have suggested the proper process would be an internal city matter resulting in a resolution approved by the City Council and then recorded with the County Recorder.
County and City Surveyors - your opinions? Please see below:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... Num=970.5..
https://casetext.com/statute/californi ... upervisors
Thanks in advance
I have suggested the proper process would be an internal city matter resulting in a resolution approved by the City Council and then recorded with the County Recorder.
County and City Surveyors - your opinions? Please see below:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... Num=970.5..
https://casetext.com/statute/californi ... upervisors
Thanks in advance
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I have seen many Certificate of Corrections in my area that changed a street name.
There is a small jurisdiction in my area that changed the name of a road through the town.
The jurisdiction filed one Certificate of Correction for 8 Final Subdivision maps that had the old road name on them and a note at the end of the list that said "Together with any other maps within City Limits that reference (old road name) as annexed into the City on this date."
There is a small jurisdiction in my area that changed the name of a road through the town.
The jurisdiction filed one Certificate of Correction for 8 Final Subdivision maps that had the old road name on them and a note at the end of the list that said "Together with any other maps within City Limits that reference (old road name) as annexed into the City on this date."
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Street names get changed from time to time for various reasons. No effort is spent on revising every map affected by the name change.
Future maps simply note: SUBMAN STREET (FORMERLY KNOWN AS DENIS AVENUE)
The name change is usually handled through a resolution as far as I can remember.
Future maps simply note: SUBMAN STREET (FORMERLY KNOWN AS DENIS AVENUE)
The name change is usually handled through a resolution as far as I can remember.
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Scott wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:12 am I have seen many Certificate of Corrections in my area that changed a street name.
There is a small jurisdiction in my area that changed the name of a road through the town.
The jurisdiction filed one Certificate of Correction for 8 Final Subdivision maps that had the old road name on them and a note at the end of the list that said "Together with any other maps within City Limits that reference (old road name) as annexed into the City on this date."
So just to tie this up. This is a judgement call right now right? Kinda based on how long it’s been since the map has been filed?Ian Wilson wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:16 am Street names get changed from time to time for various reasons. No effort is spent on revising every map affected by the name change.
Future maps simply note: SUBMAN STREET (FORMERLY KNOWN AS DENIS AVENUE)
The name change is usually handled through a resolution as far as I can remember.
I was in development for quite awhile and I used to think the number of COCs were kinda a tell tell sign of how good a surveyor was….until I saw how many COCs got filed for street name changes within the first few years after the map was initially filed. 1 out of 20. Maybe 1 out of 50? It’s pretty common in certain jurisdictions. The developer was still onboard and it was cleaner to “leave footsteps” on that actual map. Plus the developer was still around to pay the surveyor to prepare it. Often the developer drove the name change. Etc.
The statute law isn’t clear on this issue as the original post indicates. Multiple ways could be correct. I highly doubt there’s case law specifically on a subject like this to clarify it and until we get case law on it there really is no “right” answer.
For the situation at hand, if you really want an answer on what to do my advice would be to get the city attorney to give an opinion on the matter to end any dispute and just blindly follow whatever they give as an opinion. Then it’s their problem and they are supposed to be your resource/liability shield when the law isn’t clear to tell you how best to follow the law. But that’s an internal political thing so make your own call.
If the CLSA legislative committee wanted to book this as something to do and clarify it somehow in the map act, it seems like it wouldn’t be the worst use of its time. I’ve seen this come up more than once and people interpret it differently.
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The street name change Certificate of Corrections I see are usually driven by the developer when the developer still owns the whole.
Sometimes because the name that is recorded on the map was never approved by emergency services or other.
That one the jurisdiction did was really odd. I copied and pasted that paragraph from another thread I posted asking about CoC done by someone other than the mapping Surveyor. I found the thread, but I could not find the CoC.
Sometimes because the name that is recorded on the map was never approved by emergency services or other.
That one the jurisdiction did was really odd. I copied and pasted that paragraph from another thread I posted asking about CoC done by someone other than the mapping Surveyor. I found the thread, but I could not find the CoC.
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