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And I believe by including those dates in the surveyor's statement, that portion you underlined is satisfied. Back in the 1950s when this was added to the Act, I'm pretty certain the legislators (and whomever were the sponsors if any) were not that interested in date of contract.

Sounds a little fishy Ric…. Are you saying it’s all about the survey so much that we are required by law to certify the date of survey as well as state it on the map? Those legislator cats are generally pretty careful with their words, if it was intended as you say then they left out a couple of very meaningful commas (but they got the apostrophe right)

I agree completely that the date of survey is important to note for several reasons outlined here. This explains 8764(c). The date included in the surveyor statement found in 8764.5 is a bit puzzling to me although I never thought twice about it before now…. I suppose I may be an outlaw!

Does anyone know when “the date or time period of survey” was added to 8764(c)?

I use the date of survey shown on the map as the date I began the fieldwork (end of fieldwork may work as well). I have found it useful in following another surveyor's work. The maps sometimes do not file for many years after the fieldwork (oftentimes after a JPPC inquiry). During the lapse between the fieldwork and filing date monuments and other boundary evidence is lost or can change. The date of survey provides the subsequent surveyor the time frame the evidence existed.

For documented and sometimes legitimate reasons, I have had maps not file for 5 to 7 years after the fieldwork was completed (8762 (d)). The monuments I relied upon to establish the boundary may very well be gone or in one instance, new monuments had been set on an adjacent property. The County Surveyor, rightfully, asked why the monuments were not reflected on my survey, well, the field survey was 7 years old.

In the event the survey is contracted, surveyed and mapped in the prescribed 90 days the date is less important.

DWoolley

When I purchased an old survey company, some 30 years ago, I was trying to complete a survey for the client who didn't know what to do as they were stuck. I agreed to do the survey pro bono. They needed the subdivision corners set. When I went out there, I couldn't find several of the corners, and at one location there was a pretty good sized tree. I dug through the records of the departed surveyor and found out he had done the original field work in the 1950s. Because I took the project over, I had to craft a unique note explaining the survey had been performed 30 years earlier, by the other surveyor. It was a minor headache but it explained everything! I came across this in many other instances with him. He would perform a survey in the 1950s and it was never recorded. He would map it 20 or 30 years later and files a map based on what he found a long time ago. This is also a good reason to keep old field notes!

As Dave indicated . . . the beginning date may be best because a project may take years to complete.

In the case of old survey maps that the Marin County Library has, (http://contentdm.marinlibrary.org/digit ... on/Surveys), the "begin" date would be most helpful because we could find the Order Book which lists any field notes, previous surveys, etc. There have been times when researching a Subdivision map I've had to search the old survey order books by Owner's Name to figure out when the survey BEGAN.

Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays & pray for a better New Year!

Crazy Phil's two cents.