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Map Checking - Reading monument descriptions

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:53 am
by pls7809
So I recently received a first check redline from a county on one of my RS's.

A little history - I am surveying Lot 1 of an old subdivision and during the course of my survey discovered another surveyor was concurrently surveying an adjoining lot, Lot 13 of an adjoinging old subdivision.

There are a couple of untagged monuments that I found. My notes say, "Found X" IP, no tag, no ref. Accepted as XX Corner of Lot 1. Set Nail and Tag LS 7809."

The adjoining RS by the other LS for those same monuments, which is recording this week says: "Found X" IP w/ Nail and Tag LS 7809, No Ref.", which I have no problem with because it's true, my RS has not recorded and his field work finished after I finished mine. My RS is in the process.

The redlines on my map though really chap my hide - they circle my notes where it says "no tag" and says "There are discrepencies between your map and this adjoining map with the descriptions of the monuments ????" in huge red letters.

I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.

In my response letter back to the map checker: "If you would read the full note for each monument marked you would see that my description indicates the setting of a tag as described on the adjoining RS".

The check letter was signed by an LS, but I don't think the map was actually checked by one, unless the checker commonly goes by a nickname.

Everybody makes mistakes

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:54 am
by Steve Martin
The map checker will most likely do a simultaneous facepalm and "Doh" exclamation.

If he is inexperienced, it will be a teachable moment for him (or her).

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:58 am
by pls7809
That is the reaction I hope it receives.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:29 am
by E_Page
Hopefully, your response expressed above will be all that's needed and the checker will realize his mistake.

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:00 am
by land butcher
I hope your letter gets read by the LS that signed the letter to you instead of directly to the map checker.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:15 am
by Scott Tikalsky
Ryan;

As professionals, we must also be educators of the public, of others advancing in this industry and of our selves. Be gentle with this person ... this time. :)

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 6:52 am
by pls7809
Absolutely Scott, I was more frustrated and disappointed by the fact that an LS signed the check letter. To me, that says that he also looked at this map before it was sent back to me and approved of the corrections being requested. People do make mistakes, I make mistakes, ask my boss about that. Hopefully they will learn and be better for the next map they check, which is really all I can hope for.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:10 am
by Anthony Maffia
pls7809 wrote:I make mistakes, ask my boss about that.
Sorry, I don't know your boss - would you ask him/her to post some examples to this thread? :)

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:18 am
by pls7809
Ha ha. Yeah. Don't hold your breath while you wait.

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:23 am
by Stephen Johnson
Ryan,

Would that be San Bernadino or Riverside?

Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:28 am
by pls7809
I am not commenting on what County it is. I am not pointing fingers on this. Just showing an example and hope that improvement is seen in the map checking process at every county. BTW I practice in many counties in this state, as the company I work for has a couple of statewide contracts.