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Contractor's License

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:24 am
by Gromatici
I just had a general send me a contract where the "sub" needed a contractor's license. I scratched it out since I don't have one and don't need one to perform survey layout (Per State Law it falls under the Business and Professions Code under the Practice of Land Surveying). Anyway, he is telling me that all his surveyor's have one (contractor's license). Have anyone ever heard of this before? I don' t know any surveyor's that go out and get contractor's licenses to do layout. Non of the companies I've worked for have had one and I've never been asked to get one before.

I even threw out a couple of names of guys he used and he said yes they did.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:49 am
by pls7809
Nope. Never heard of it. I think you can check the names you gave him and check on the contractors board website.

Surveyors don't

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:54 am
by bruce hall
need a contractors license to perform layout for construction.

Yes

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:10 pm
by Gromatici
I know, but how to you tell a GC that when he isn't willing to agree? I'm sending him a copy of the LS Act that defines landing surveying just so he can see that he has nothing to worry about.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:45 pm
by Stephen Johnson
I would verify about the other surveyors having contractor's licenses. Many contractors have problems with the truth.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:45 pm
by Scott Tikalsky
Hi Eric;

Tell the contractor that you provide professional services as a Land Surveyor, not contracting services such as a grading contractor. You really should be signing a professional services sub-consultant contract. I have run into problems with this in the past also.

Good Luck,

Contractors build

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:01 pm
by bruce hall
things. Surveyors tell them where to build it. Huge difference.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:44 pm
by Paul Goebel
I agree with Scott.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:09 pm
by rpost
I had this happen once and just put down my LS number in the Contractor's License spot. Worked okay then.

Confused

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:06 pm
by Gromatici
I think that they've been confused for years and I finally got them to understand. I told them to find a professional services contract. Do you guys have them sign you own contract too?

Thanks for all the replies.

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:56 pm
by Anthony Maffia
At the company I worked at for years, we could only make the tiny contractors sign our contracts. The big guys always made us sign their contracts, with only a tiny bit of language negotiation allowed.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:22 am
by Brian Christensen
rpost wrote:I had this happen once and just put down my LS number in the Contractor's License spot. Worked okay then.
+1

I bet they ask for a bond too.

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:18 pm
by land butcher
All the Constuction and Enviro company contracts are written by Attys to cover EVERYONE. And with what the bottom feeder charges them for the contract they are not about to change it. If all engrs and surveyors refused to sign them then they might revise their contracts to fit our services, but that will never happen.

My biggest complaint is the requirement that I give up my right to subragration (sp), That I can't sue them for my fees if their client did not pay them and they are not pursuing getting paid. But surveyor's must be willing to take that chance as they have survey work done. Not me.

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:28 pm
by E_Page
Never heard of such a thing. I agree with those who said to check online for contractors' licenses of his previous surveyors to prove the point to him.

Called Back

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:23 am
by Gromatici
He called back and told me that he was mistaken and was "really surprised" that the other firms he used didn't have a contractor's license.

I sent him the LS act on what "defines" a Land Surveyor and that helped. I guess most of these guys never think that we do other things besides construction staking.