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Hey how's it going?

I'm working on getting my PLS license.

I'm looking at these old tests and making sure I can answer these old questions.

I would say the controlling elements would be Junior and Senior rights, as well as called for monuments.

A. Right of possession (unwritten conveyance)
B. Senior right (in the event of an overlap)
C. Written intentions of Parties
1. Call for a survey or an actual survey upon which the conveyance
is based
2. Call for monuments
a. Natural
b. Artificial
3. Direction and distance
4. Direction or distance
5. Area (quantity)
6. Coordinates


I would hold the measured distance from the east corner of Smith property and go 200.50' west to the chiseled X.

Then I believe you would have to disregard the FD IP because Jones deed is senior. This would yield a distance of 249.00' instead of 250.30' to the FD IP by subtracting 399-150.

Then I would hold the deed distance of 201.00' to the west.

Then I would hold the senior deeds of Adams and Jones which would yield a distance of 149.00' instead of 150.00'.

Then I would hold the deed distance of east 100.00', then north 100.00' to the northerly resolved line of Smith.

Then I would hold the senior deed of Adams and the measured distance to the chiseled X which yields a distance of 100.50' instead of 100.00'.

I'm aware that I could be missing some things, but I'd like to know the correct process to pass the exam since the exams that are uploaded on CLSA do not have any responses.

Hope the seasoned Land Surveyors can weigh in to help this Novice pass his PLS exam. hehe.

Thanks guys!

I would hold the pipe and then go to Jones calc NE corner then 101 feet along jones north line. Then north to Adams and follow Adams deed line around the corner and back to north line

Jones deed is not relevant to the pipe.

Don’t get hung up on straight lines and perfect right angles. It’s not a perfect world.

Thanks David that's a big help and that makes a lot of sense actually. Doing that still wouldn't violate Jones Senior rights and keeps the called for pipe as a controlling element which is the intent of the deed!

Thanks!

Here is what I worked out in Jan. of 2005 before taking the test.
Don't think it is going to help you, because I disagree with David.
I had a lot of previous test questions that I was also in possession of the correct answer per the board or testing committee.
This is one the dozens I had that I did not know what the correct answer was.
2005 was my first and only time (because I passed) taking the test.
I believe in 2005, less than 10% passed and the cut score was under 50%.

David Kendall wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 3:19 pm Then north to Adams

On second thought, for the westerly NW corner, holding the 100 feet from the SE corner of Adams is probably a more reasonable/defensible solution.

I believe that CCP § 2077 suggests holding direction over distance but the nearest ascertainable reference point would be the calculated SE corner of Adams. Probably acceptable either way. In the real world I would seek extrinsic evidence but on a test? Flip a coin and explain your reasoning if possible

Scott wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:19 am Here is what I worked out in Jan. of 2005 before taking the test.
Don't think it is going to help you, because I disagree with David.
I had a lot of previous test questions that I was also in possession of the correct answer per the board or testing committee.
This is one the dozens I had that I did not know what the correct answer was.
2005 was my first and only time (because I passed) taking the test.
I believe in 2005, less than 10% passed and the cut score was under 50%.

Thanks for posting this!!!

Here are some more that I worked on.

I did not have the answers to any of these.

Scott wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:25 pm Here are some more that I worked on.

I did not have the answers to any of these.

Thanks Scott!

All these are very helpful.

At least to point me in the right direction of thought.

Very much appreciated.

Here is what I came up with.

I did this mostly independent of Scott's answers and came up with the same thing as Scott.

The question was to describe the controlling elements.

Scott was a little more descriptive than me though :)