California Surveyors Forums

I've seen it more than once, and some of you folks have the seal with the grizzly on it.............I need to get one of these. Where did you order it from?

You know who you are!

eackerman@gromatici.com

David Woolley owns the copyright. You'll need to contact him. https://www.dwoolley.com/

L.A. Stevens

Larry is correct, Wooley has it Trademarked.

So DO NOT COPY his seal verbatim. You need a different border, different name, different LS # . . .

You'll need to create one in ACAD then convert to *.tiff, etc. for stamp company to make. (Once you create a digital copy - you kinda don't need a stamp.)

Besides . .. who would be so mean as to sue a brother surveyor for Trademark infringement? Isn't "imitation the sincerest form of flattery"? And doesn't the California Bear belong to us, like the White House used to be?

Have a good Thursday!

Crazy Phil - Sonoma

My colleagues from Marin and Sonoma Counties are correct. I hold the registered trademark for the California Bear stamps used by both engineers and land surveyors. I recently received correspondence from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office confirming that, although the marks may appear expired, they remain valid and are not at risk of lapse. Renewal will be completed shortly—before the upcoming shutdown.

I have never needed to file suit to protect the marks; we issue occasional cease-and-desist letters as necessary. One stamp vendor on the East Coast resisted compliance for a period—hired an attorney, stalled for several months—but ultimately withdrew their listings. It is remarkable how far some will go, first promising to stop infringing, then delaying through legal maneuvering, before finally falling into compliance.

We do issue license use.

DWoolley

DWoolley wrote: Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:55 am ...It is remarkable how far some will go, first promising to stop infringing, then delaying through legal maneuvering, before finally falling into compliance.

Sounds a lot like Enforcement investigations at the Board.