Check out Pacific Land Seminars...
They don't have the fall schedule out yet...
http://www.pacificland.com/
LSIT preparation courses?
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Steve Martin
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CLSA Conference
Ryan,
You missed a pretty good program (judging by all of the noise coming thru the wall) by Jerry Miller at the CLSA conference in March. CLSA is looking into doing something like that again, so stay tuned for the Conference program. Jerry Miller has also put on a LSIT review program thru Santa Rosa JC. Some of the CLSA Chapters also have programs geared towards LSIT review. The Channel Islands Chapter, Santa Clara/ San Mateo Chapter and I believe there are others out there. Contact your local Chapter for more info.
You missed a pretty good program (judging by all of the noise coming thru the wall) by Jerry Miller at the CLSA conference in March. CLSA is looking into doing something like that again, so stay tuned for the Conference program. Jerry Miller has also put on a LSIT review program thru Santa Rosa JC. Some of the CLSA Chapters also have programs geared towards LSIT review. The Channel Islands Chapter, Santa Clara/ San Mateo Chapter and I believe there are others out there. Contact your local Chapter for more info.
Steve Martin, LS 7264
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Rob_LS
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Join the Sacramento Chapter, and get involved - June 4th Meeting at Steve's Pizza in El Dorado Hills... Sac Chapter had a Jerry Miller LSIT prep last fall before the October exam, hoping to do the same this year... Also planning on some one day seminars for preliminary LSIT workshops this summer... Also - Sac City College program... John Adam Survey 330 class is excellent for speeding up your calculations... Check out the website: Sac-Surveyors.org
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T. S. Higgins
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I'll second the endorsement of both the Sacramento City College program and Jerry Miller's LSIT preparation course.
SCC is great for brushing up on the fundamentals of survey, and becoming familiar with calculations that you often won't be exposed to in the average office, especially with the incessant advance of "plug-and-chug" survey calculation programs. I've found many of the things I learned in Ed Zimmerman's class as well as John Adam's class have been extremely helpful when your office's server goes down, or when you're out in the field and you need to calc in a position or field-fit a construction staking job.
Jerry Miller's course gave me a lot to think about heading into the LSIT exam; some of the exam techniques as well as the idea of "Test Product =/= Work Product" helped me out a great deal. It also serves as a good way to gauge your grasp on each area of the test.
I certainly credit both of these classes as contributing a great deal to passing the exam last October, so if you get the opportunity to take them, do so!
SCC is great for brushing up on the fundamentals of survey, and becoming familiar with calculations that you often won't be exposed to in the average office, especially with the incessant advance of "plug-and-chug" survey calculation programs. I've found many of the things I learned in Ed Zimmerman's class as well as John Adam's class have been extremely helpful when your office's server goes down, or when you're out in the field and you need to calc in a position or field-fit a construction staking job.
Jerry Miller's course gave me a lot to think about heading into the LSIT exam; some of the exam techniques as well as the idea of "Test Product =/= Work Product" helped me out a great deal. It also serves as a good way to gauge your grasp on each area of the test.
I certainly credit both of these classes as contributing a great deal to passing the exam last October, so if you get the opportunity to take them, do so!
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E_Page
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When you say that the "test product does not equal work product", are you referring to the fact that at times, in the field, you are able to use judgement to decide that a wider margin of error would be accptable for a certain measurement or calculation under a particular set of circumstances as compared to an exam situation?
Or are you stating that the methodology to approach a problem in an exam is significantly different than what one should or would normally do in the field?
Or are you stating that the methodology to approach a problem in an exam is significantly different than what one should or would normally do in the field?
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T. S. Higgins
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The former; on the test they're often looking for the best answer, rather than the acceptable answer. Obviously if you're doing staking calculations for a poured cement pad, in the middle of a large lot, you're not about to get too excited over a matter of 3 hundreths or so, but on the test, it's better to not overthink the situation. Solve the problem to the best of your ability, regardless of how you might do things in the field when you know you're only staking for a doghouse.E_Page wrote:When you say that the "test product does not equal work product", are you referring to the fact that at times, in the field, you are able to use judgement to decide that a wider margin of error would be accptable for a certain measurement or calculation under a particular set of circumstances as compared to an exam situation?
Or are you stating that the methodology to approach a problem in an exam is significantly different than what one should or would normally do in the field?
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E_Page
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Good, that's what I was hoping you were saying.
Many seem to be under the impression that there are two very different sets of methodology to use when approaching survey problems, depending upon whether it is real life or in an exam situation.
Use the same methodology in both circumstances (hopefully one has learned and employs correct methodology in their work) and you should do well.
The difference between real life and an exam, where the values of the answers are concerned, is that in real life you may have the leeway to compare your answer to the application and determine that a reasonably approximate answer is close enough. In an exam, the answer is either right or wrong. If your answer does not match one of the multiple guess choices provided, either quickly check your work, or move on to the next question and come back to the one you had problems with if you have time to do so.
Many seem to be under the impression that there are two very different sets of methodology to use when approaching survey problems, depending upon whether it is real life or in an exam situation.
Use the same methodology in both circumstances (hopefully one has learned and employs correct methodology in their work) and you should do well.
The difference between real life and an exam, where the values of the answers are concerned, is that in real life you may have the leeway to compare your answer to the application and determine that a reasonably approximate answer is close enough. In an exam, the answer is either right or wrong. If your answer does not match one of the multiple guess choices provided, either quickly check your work, or move on to the next question and come back to the one you had problems with if you have time to do so.
Evan Page, PLS
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