Fractional Sections

Double_Proportion · Post by **Double_Proportion** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:49 pm

Keithwill wrote:Does it not seem plausible that if all there was to surveying section subdivision lines at exact mathematical intersection only, would not that only require an expert measuring technician, because a professional land surveyor would not be needed to make any judgement decisions?

I believe you to be correct sir. That is why a professional is charged with the task of measurement. The one thing I understand about surveying that would appear to be a constant is that this profession is a mix between history, technique, law, personal and property rights and most importantly common scense; this above all is the most important needed to weigh the above factors. In any event; this post is simply meant for what bloggers would call a "bump". Important topic that should be discussed. I look forward to the read.

Ian Easton · Post by **Ian Easton** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:00 pm

Here's the two points at the center of section 29 T. 3 S., R. 5 W. SBBM. (along side the lath). They are about 2' apart. Bit of a problem here.

N 33-52-47.3
W 117-25-37.3
(hand held GPS fix)

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:10 pm

Is there some explanation on this, or is it simply a matter of measurement and no judgment?

Ian Easton · Post by **Ian Easton** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:36 pm

I'm removing the post (the one before Keith's comment) - wrong thread sorry Keith

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:40 pm

Keithwill wrote:Is there some explanation on this, or is it simply a matter of measurement and no judgment?

It would seem that many surveyors believe that we are legally precluded from making professional level judgment, and if the circumstance ever calls for a professional level of investigation, analysis and decisionmaking, that we should just make the measurements and send the victims, uh, I mean the clients to the real professionals argue law to the professional who wears a robe and decides between the arguments.

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:32 am

Evan, I believe you are right!

It seems as though, these surveyors who actually believe that they only have to depend on their measuring abilities and their very good measuring machines, that they can subdivide sections by using the mathematical Robillard/Bouman method and thereby decrease their liability and simply turn the problem (that they just created) over to the judicial system.

Somehow, they think the lawyers have authority to determine boundaries!

Some simply don't know any better, and don't want to know any better.

The bottom line is the fact that they do not realize, that their liability just doubled with using procedures that are not sanctioned anyplace, other than the Robillard/Bouman books. It would seem to be a worthwhile exercise to research this bogus theory and see if in fact anybody else promotes it IN WRITING.