Architectural plans showing Prop Lines

land butcher · Post by **land butcher** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:19 pm

I realize it's only photo quality, but on Google earth you can find 15ft pretty easily.
You can check the street width curb to curb, you can usually determine the back line and measure to the curb. That alone will give a rough indication of the ROW line location in relation to curb line.

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:17 pm

LS 4722 wrote:I have known Bill for decades and he isnt going to just snag some street plans and go with that about where a curbline to PL is..

Bill may have all the bases covered and be doing things just fine. Others reading these threads might look at what Bill wrote and think that it is OK for them to make statements about RW location based on what's shown on improvement plans while not even realizing what bases need to be covered before doing so.

My last post is as much for those people as it is for Bill.

geoshale · Post by **geoshale** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:33 pm

Evan P.
I appreciate your comments. It has made reflect on the process I follow when I provide PL/RW info. Overall, I feel real comfortable with our process. If you can't defend your methodology then you shouldn't be in another line of work.

RW is based on actual surveys, and the improvement plans are as-builts. Back when the City was being built out surveyors were used to as-built improvements (besides provide the initial construction surveys). I have never had to go thru the surveys for street improvements (but I have seen it in the field books), but I have had to refer to them to verify sewer & lateral info. Over the years customers have complemented us on the availability and quality of our improvements plans.

As for our GIS data, because I've been involved with our GIS since its creation, and the only person to have edited the cadastral (I use the term loosely here) basemap I know where the warts are. I tell everyone that our basemap should never be used to determine PLs. Never. In this case I had updated several blocks in this area and feel real comfortable with my results. My methodology is reviewed and approved by an LS (damn I miss the hobbit).

I'm always recommending to folks that a survey is money well spent, especially if it concerns property in the hills.

land butcher · Post by **land butcher** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:50 am

I'm always recommending to folks that a survey is money well spent, especially if it concerns property in the hills.

It never ceases to amaze me that people building or expanding a 7 figure residence balk at spending a few thousand for a survey.

pls7809 · Post by **pls7809** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:43 am

land butcher wrote:It never ceases to amaze me that people building or expanding a 7 figure residence balk at spending a few thousand for a survey.

The problem is they borrow up past their eyeballs to build the "most" house that they can and use all that money on the house for new features.

If we could get all cities to require a boundary survey with monuments prior to issuing building permits (see Newport Beach) we would be making some serious strides.