The County Engineers Association of California (CEAC) Survey Policy Committee invites you to assist with the nominations for the 2014 CEAC Surveyor of the Year award. This award recognizes the outstanding contributions to the County Surveyor profession and CEAC activities. The nominee for the CEAC Surveyor of the Year Award does not necessarily have to occupy the County Surveyor position. However, nominees must occupy a position with responsibility for a major Public Works (or similar) functional area (i.e.; County Surveyor, Transportation, Flood Control, Solid Waste, etc. and are required to be authorized to practice Land Surveying in the State of California (PLS/Pre-’82 CE). If you would like to recognize an outstanding CEAC member please submit your nominations to Rick Marshall at Rick.Marshall@countyofnapa.org by October 3, 2014.
For additional information and the nomination application, please visit the CEAC website at:
Should be retitled "Government Surveyor of the Year".
Defund govt
To fully fund govt first the national debt would have to be paid. The US Govt is $18 TRILLION in debt, using 350 million people in the USA it would require $51,000 from every man, woman and child to pay it off. And that's just the Federal debt. Did you write your check yet?
There was a time, circa 1980-90's and earlier when the guide for map checking put out by that association used language that recognized the primary importance of the practitioner's input. After all it was his/her survey and survey map. In fact the title of the pamphlet was "Guide to the Preparation of Records of Surveys and Corner Records". Note that the emphasis was on the surveyor who "PREPARED" the survey map. One of the purposes was stated as "with a statement of procedures, there will be a minimum of difficulty...in filing" . It went on to state these were to be "construed as guidelines, so as not to be unduly restrictive".
That view and policy gradually changed and finally went by the wayside.
Today, the guide (someone correct me if not accurate) has or recently had as part of it's title: Guide for the Review of ...
So we have watched our civil servants come full circle from an emphasis on the PREPARER to an emphasis on the REVIEWER.
Is this incredible or just part of the bureaucracy we sheeple are now used to ?
It is called the Guide to the Preparation of Records of Survey and Corner Records and was last revised in 2009. Took me less than 5 minutes to look this up on the CEAC site which I imagine anyone else could do just as quickly.
The CEAC Survey Policy Committee fought for a long time to have a Surveyor of The Year recognized within their organization and it has only been the last 3-4 years this has happened. They didn't need to share this nomination with CLSA, they discussed it openly and chose to do it in an effort to involve the surveying community. We should all be respectful of this desire to collaborate.
If you don't have anything good to say about it, keep it to yourself. You are not benefitting anyone including yourselves.
opps you are right to catch that . Will not rely on memory for quotes here in future. The state association still uses the word 'prepare' in their title.
Got it confused (and should not have) with a local county surveyor guide booklet that now uses the word review instead of prepare. So my point should have been directed toward the local county surveyor department and their gradual mission creep on the slippery slope of map review.
It has been my experience that the request "we can't really require you to put this on your map, but we would like it added.", eventually becomes a hard and fast rule. Govt just keeps growing and growing when it should be shrinking.
Defund govt
To fully fund govt first the national debt would have to be paid. The US Govt is $18 TRILLION in debt, using 350 million people in the USA it would require $51,000 from every man, woman and child to pay it off. And that's just the Federal debt. Did you write your check yet?
Desert Turtoise, you make a good point- maybe the CEAC guide title should be more geared to the review, and not the preparation. Although both the reviewer and preparer should be well versed in the laws that govern both the review (8766 PLS Act) and the preparation (primarily 8764 PLS Act), doesn't it stand to reason that County Surveyors are in a position to create a guide for their own use (review) and private surveyors should be the creators of a guide for the preparation of Records of Surveys? And why has no one stepped up to do that? Isn't this guide the result of an attempt to get on the same page and streamline checking? Isn't it an attempt at creating some uniformity and predictability so the private surveyor has an inkling how the County Surveyor is going to interpret the various sections of the PLS that mandate the checking process, and hence the preparation process? Wait, I'm starting to change my mind-maybe the result of the guide is one and the same, no matter what you call it.
"gradual mission creep on the slippery slope of map review". Hmmm....
Back to the subject; CEAC as an organization gives County Surveyors the chance to interact on various issues, but these interactions don't always provide the best scenario for judging how successful their colleagues are in providing services back on their local turf. The local surveyor is in the best position to recognize when the County Surveyor in his/her area is providing a professional and valuable service. This is a positive opportunity make a positive statement.
Thanks in advance to those who may consider acting on this opportunity.
