Mystery Map
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mpallamary
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Mystery Map
Here is an interesting map. The first person who can figure out what makes the attached map a curiosity will get a free copy of The Curt Brown Chronicles.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
I'll take a stab - the County Surveyor and the County Assessor each found the lots to be valuable for commercial purposes. The CS further found that residential purposes were not valuable, and did not find the map technically correct as part of his certification.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
interesting the commercial and residential note. Haven't seen that before, but I do not read that the Co. surveyor found the map to technically correct or not, not stated, so would be an assumption either way.
it is the establishment of the home of the Strawberry Music Festival.
it is the establishment of the home of the Strawberry Music Festival.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
Dead end of a State Highway, while uncommon, not unheard of.
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
Russ.
I'm not sure the State Highway ended, it just isn't shown outside the subdivision limits. The Sonora-Mono wagon road was established in 1860 in the alignment shown.
I'm not sure the State Highway ended, it just isn't shown outside the subdivision limits. The Sonora-Mono wagon road was established in 1860 in the alignment shown.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
[]here is another map of that era, and it is noted as for residential use, so seems to be a standard statement for that time period
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mpallamary
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Re: Mystery Map
Great answers but not the one I have in mind!
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
Hmmm - there are some land-locked lots in Block 2, while in Block 3 there are alternative access roadways.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
might be hard for Warren and I to find this is a typical map for this part of the world and era.
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
The 20' roadways in Block 4 aren't connected to the State Highway.
Unsubdivided lands remaining in the subdivider's ownership aren't delineated but, presumably, would be reserved to provide for access upon sale of otherwise landlocked lots.
As it turns out, other means of access were provided from offsite development.
Unsubdivided lands remaining in the subdivider's ownership aren't delineated but, presumably, would be reserved to provide for access upon sale of otherwise landlocked lots.
As it turns out, other means of access were provided from offsite development.
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
Could it be that the lots along the South Fork of the Stanislaus River aren't shown as going to the water's edge?
Russ is right, I've gotten used to seeing maps of this vintage.
Russ is right, I've gotten used to seeing maps of this vintage.
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dedkad
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Re: Mystery Map
There is no Lot 13. Bad luck.
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Scott
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Re: Mystery Map
Strawberry Music Festival moved to Mather, I think.
Strawberrry, Fishcamp, & Mather were on the list of my mountain stomping grounds in my younger years.
There was a time that if you took a left at Fishcamp off east bound 41 on the way into the Park and travel up Summit Road then right on Chowchilla Mountian Road, you would pop out in the middle of the golf course at Wawona. You could also 4x4 it all the way from the intx of 49 & Chowchilla Mountian Road between Mariposa and Oakhurst.
BTW, the Chowchilla Mountian Road was the historic stagecoach trail into the Park. They usta run a stagecoach down it once a year, I don't know if they still do.
My Dad is from Mariposa and my Mom was raised in Yosemite Valley. Miners and fisherman.
Strawberrry, Fishcamp, & Mather were on the list of my mountain stomping grounds in my younger years.
There was a time that if you took a left at Fishcamp off east bound 41 on the way into the Park and travel up Summit Road then right on Chowchilla Mountian Road, you would pop out in the middle of the golf course at Wawona. You could also 4x4 it all the way from the intx of 49 & Chowchilla Mountian Road between Mariposa and Oakhurst.
BTW, the Chowchilla Mountian Road was the historic stagecoach trail into the Park. They usta run a stagecoach down it once a year, I don't know if they still do.
My Dad is from Mariposa and my Mom was raised in Yosemite Valley. Miners and fisherman.
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John Williams, PLS
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Re: Mystery Map
Surveyor's statement is notarized.
East line of Tract: looks like there is a bearing (page torn) along the 1552 ft. line, although no bearing break shown at the section corner 17,20,16,21
Where is corner #2?
State Highway 1 chain, 66ft wide does not look to scale
BOS approved in 1924, dedication acceptance in 1926
JW
East line of Tract: looks like there is a bearing (page torn) along the 1552 ft. line, although no bearing break shown at the section corner 17,20,16,21
Where is corner #2?
State Highway 1 chain, 66ft wide does not look to scale
BOS approved in 1924, dedication acceptance in 1926
JW
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Warren Smith
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Re: Mystery Map
Looking at maps in this era, sometimes the surveyor's certificate was notarized, sometimes not.
But the exclusion of Lots numbered 13 was not the norm ...
But the exclusion of Lots numbered 13 was not the norm ...
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Mike Mays
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Re: Mystery Map
Is it that it was approved and recorded in 1926, prior to the State's first modern land use planning laws enacted in 1929? The regulatory statutes in effect at the time did not regulate the design and improvement of subdivisions as required by current section 66499.30. The grandfather clause is not be applicable per Witt Home Ranch, Inc v. County of Sonoma. Unless it can be proven that the Board of Supervisors reviewed and approved the design and improvements of the subdivision, this map was not a creator of the lots depicted, merely a convenient description reference for subsequent conveyances.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
Scott,
We likely know quite a few folks in common.
yes the routes you describe are still there, in use and actually a part of the Co. maintained road system. The annual June Stage ride unfortunately stopped a few years ago, due to the aging of the organizers and the lack of participates. It was also used twice a year until the mid 1980's, to drive the YNP horse/mule herd to and from Wawona to the winter grazing. Quite a deal to see 100 herd of pack animals driven 40 miles, along a state highway and over the mountain. Mean while back to the map.
We likely know quite a few folks in common.
yes the routes you describe are still there, in use and actually a part of the Co. maintained road system. The annual June Stage ride unfortunately stopped a few years ago, due to the aging of the organizers and the lack of participates. It was also used twice a year until the mid 1980's, to drive the YNP horse/mule herd to and from Wawona to the winter grazing. Quite a deal to see 100 herd of pack animals driven 40 miles, along a state highway and over the mountain. Mean while back to the map.
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RAM
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Re: Mystery Map
so the roads were dedicated to the public, but in fee or as easements? Who owns the roads and common areas? in some of these, it is a debated issue today.
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mpallamary
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Re: Mystery Map
Dedkad wins! There is no Lot 13. Reminds me of an elevator.
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dedkad
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Re: Mystery Map
Woohoo! Thanks, Mike. You don't need to mail me the book. Please donate it to a raffle for your local CLSA chapter.