State Board Newsletter - 1999

[mpallamary]

I was doing some research on the topic of electronic signatures, which are permitted under the California Code of Regulations as it is an important option during these times of COVID.

This is very important from a historical perspective.

https://digital.sandiego.edu/cgi/viewco ... ntext=crlr

[mpallamary]

Also:

https://www.nspe.org/sites/default/file ... ealing.pdf

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https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... =&article=

[RAM]

not clear how covid justifies electronic signatures. you still have to send me the mylar in the mail, so what does it gain? If your trusting your drafter to sign for you, that is up to you, I still wet stamp.

Descriptions and reports, have to ponder, but again how can you verify you were the one that stamped and sign, not someone on your behalf?

[mpallamary]

I have a friend who used to work for CALTRANS. One of his co-workers stole his stamp and was doing survey work under his license.

I prepared a description yesterday in a SOCAL city. The plan checker asked me to hand deliver a west stamped/signed copy of the document. I politely refused and sent an electronically signed copy.

The law was changed so we could enter the electronic age.

CCR:

411. Seal and Signature.

(a) The seal required by Section 6764 of the Code shall be not less than one and one-half
(1½) inches in diameter and shall contain the following information:
(1) Within the top border of seal: Either “Professional Engineer,” “Registered
Professional Engineer,” or “Licensed Professional Engineer.”
(2) Within the bottom border of seal: “State of California.”
(3) In the center of seal:
(A) Licensee’s name as it appears on the certificate issued by the Board or as
abbreviated pursuant to subdivision (d);
(B) Number of certificate or authority; and,
(C) Branch or authority of engineering in which licensed.
The seal shall be of a design similar to those shown below and shall bear at minimum
those elements specified above.
(b) The seal authorized by Section 8750 of the Code shall be not less than one and one half (1 ½) inches in diameter and shall contain the following information:
(1) Within the top border of the seal: Either “Professional Land Surveyor” or
“Licensed Land Surveyor.”
(2) Within the bottom border of the seal: “State of California.”
(3) In the center of the seal:
(A) Licensee’s name as it appears on the certificate issued by the Board or as
abbreviated pursuant to subdivision (d); and,
(B) Number of certificate.
The seal shall be of a design similar to those shown below and shall bear at minimum
those elements specified above.
(c) The seal may be obtained by the licensee from any source.
(d) The seal may contain an abbreviated form of the licensee’s given name or a
combination of initials representing the licensee’s given name provided the surname listed with
the Board appears on the seal and in the signature.
(e) The seal shall be capable of leaving a permanent ink representation, a permanent
impression, or an electronically-generated representation on the documents. The signature may
be applied to the documents electronically....

[RAM]

and just because we can, doesn't always mean we should. I don't dispute the right, but for me, I am sticking with tradition.

[Peter Ehlert]

and just because we can, doesn't always mean we should. I don't dispute the right, but for me, I am sticking with tradition.

+1

[hellsangle]

Godda love, Peter . . .

+2

Have a nice weekend all and get the vaccine!

Crazy Phil - Surveyor to Recorder

[mpallamary]

Good for you RAM!

Be safe!

[dedkad]

And please don't forget to put the date that you "signed", whether it be wet or electronic. Date of signature is required. Can't tell you how many plans I review that don't include it.