What civil engineering can't a surveyor do?

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I've been asked by clients several times to create site plans, including grading, for permitting purposes.

Some surveyors have done this, and the county planning department doesn't really quibble (or understand) about what type of license is required for what type of work. They just want to see a stamp on certain things.

I tell the clients that I am technically competent to do almost any design work required of such site plans, but not legally authorized to do so, and I don't do them.

Unfortunately, as Murhcie pointed out in the other thread, many engineers don't realize that they are not surveyors and that there may be much more to identifying a point or line than just comparing a description or a dimension to a record map.

I, like many other surveyors, have more cross training in engineering than most engineers have in surveying, which means I know just enough to get in trouble if I'm not operating under the direction of a PE when engaging in design related tasks.

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In California,

Grading and drainage plans, Subdivision plans, bridge plans, structural walls, hospital and schools plans, Irrigation canal and pipeline plans anything to do with dynamics of moving material
EXCEPT field leveling, earthwork/rock quantity and relocation of garbage and/or recyclables.

We can also measure an underwater excavation, draw a plat which shows the permitted ultimate excavation depth and show an approximation of quantity remaining to be excavated.
Dont do anything that requires permitted development. This is really making metropolitan parcel maps hard to justify. Public agencies require offsite and onsite improvements. This is all under civil Engineering.

Tip of Iceberg

I Nebraska, an LS is expected to design irrigation facilities. See Davis and Foot's old green book.