Simple times . . .

[hellsangle]

When the Board gave you a self-addressed/stamped return envelope!

I was going through some of Lockton's (LS 2535) old files last night and found the attached. I recall him saying that if you were already licensed and wanted to be a "civil engineer" or "electrical engineer" . . . all you did was pay the Board of Registration ONE DOLLAR and you were in. (I'm trying to find his Electrical Engineer cert.)

Phil - Sonoma

[Peter Ehlert]

good find! wanna double your money?
It must be from 1958 or before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ical_rates

[DWoolley]

In the late 1960s, shortly after CLSA was formed and began pushing to have engineers prohibited from performing land surveying, there was a push to make all licensed surveyors at the time engineers and eliminating the land surveyors' license. It was considered. Thankfully, the small community of licensees, mostly from the bay area, refused the offer and pushed forward to professional autonomy. We could not do that again today. It would be a hard argument that we collectively, as a community, have specialized knowledge, skills and training. [Remember my recent post when a 20 year licensee and Fresno graduate established interior section lines, in both townships, from two monuments on the township line and then, the licensed County Surveyor with a CFeds license signed off on it on a record of survey? Few practitioners have had more education and specialized training].

Ask yourself, what do you do that a contractor using the same equipment cannot immulate? How much more does your staff know than the contractor's staff? A contractor can find the two monuments you found for control and layout anything shown on the same CAD drawing, right? Any engineering technician can use RTK/RTN, find two monuments and create a "record" boundary, right? Precisely, what is it that you do differently?

DWoolley

[William Magee]

You sure sound like a cup half empty kind of guy. I suppose if I lived and worked in the rat race I too might be of similar crabbiness.
Maybe take a vacation once in a while might do some good?

[Peter Ehlert]

DWoolley: I use my knowledge and experience.

Are you trying to make a case for giving less credit for formal education and require more experience? Sold!

[Dave Karoly, PLS]

1020 N Street is now the Legislative Office Building, across the street from the State Capitol.