How about a forum for boundary procedures?

mpallamary · Post by **mpallamary** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:03 pm

I would like to propose a forum where people can discuss boundary related issues. They can ask questions and see what kind of responses they get. Curt Brown did this for many years and he fielded questions all over the country. It was great and educational. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this site. In addition to being a focused forum, it would be easier to track stuff down.

It might help direct the discussions better.

Thoughts?

btaylor · Post by **btaylor** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:04 pm

Sounds good to me Mike. There are other sites like beerleg.com, but it is national and I would much prefer to have one more specific to CA.

mpallamary · Post by **mpallamary** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:01 pm

Thanks Bryan for the note. California is very unique. There are so many cases here that they really warrant discussion. From my perspective, it functions as a continuing education forum. That is one great way to elevate the stature of the profession. To the extent there is any cross talk, etc., it can occur on the general forum.

LS_8750 · Post by **LS_8750** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:05 pm

Well, maybe in light of today's developments we can get back to our knitting.
I use this forum almost entirely for boundary resolution problem solving and continuing education. I notice things fall to pieces when there aren't any current interesting topics under discussion.

Lee Hixson · Post by **Lee Hixson** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:48 pm

Personally, my bookmark list is too long already. Not so sure I would add another.

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:21 am

As many may know, I have attempted to have serious discussions on subdividing PLSS sections and many believe in the "bogus theory" that is being promoted by national book writers.

This theory of course, uses only the original protracted section center lines as the sole evidence of where those boundary lines are and any and all previous surveys that are not on those theoretical lines are simply ignored.

The Rivers v Lozeau case in Florida is the epitome of this "bogus theory" and could be the case to review and discuss.

The Dykes v Arnold case in Oregon is the exact opposite in concept and also could be reviewed and discussed.

If boundaries is the discussion concept, these two cases bring out the distinct difference in surveying concepts and could be discussed at length. I have heard testimony in a State Survey Board's hearing that the "bogus theory" is the controlling concept!

Many know of course that the term "bogus theory" is what I have coined for this survey procedure that is foreign to land survey procedures.

What say you?

Keith

Lee Hixson · Post by **Lee Hixson** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:37 am

How about a summary of each?

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:55 am

Lee,

Good start.

One case uses the BLM Manual Chapter 3 methods and the other case uses other Chapters in the Manual that deals with resurvey methods.

Keith

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:14 pm

No interest here......sorry to bring it up!

E_Page · Post by **E_Page** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:21 pm

Just waiting for you to write up a comparative analysis Keith. You get the facts and principles of each identified, start some discussion of the differences, pros & cons, and I'm sure it will generate some discussion.

Simply tossing around the term "bogus theory" doesn't give folks much to grab onto and comment about.

Peter Ehlert · Post by **Peter Ehlert** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:41 am

Evan: you hit the nail on the head

sako · Post by **sako** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:41 am

I'm interested.
why not start a poll for this suggestion?

Keithwill · Post by **Keithwill** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:35 am

I really can't believe that land surveyors do not know the difference between the methods as espoused in the recent Clark book on using only the original protracted center lines of the PLSS sections and the regular method of retracing/resurveying established center lines that do not follow the original protracted center lines.

When I have more time, I may explain the difference to those who don't know.

Keith

Lee Hixson · Post by **Lee Hixson** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:46 am

Wow! I thought you were talking about the Lucas book. (Not used to coy approaches on this board.)

Anthony Maffia · Post by **Anthony Maffia** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:25 am

Back to the topic in this thread, I don't think there's enough traffic in the "General Discussion" thread for anything to get lost. Having a new forum won't improve search results.

I suggest that new "big idea" threads have a good thread description, and the original poster add a second post marked "reserved" for updates or a thread summary. That is, the first post is what it is, but the second is basically empty. When a solution or summary can be posted, it gets edited into the second post.

Ben Lund · Post by **Ben Lund** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:54 pm

Mike,
I love the idea! Reading about boundary solutions is really the only reason why I come to the forum.

California Surveyors Forums

How about a forum for boundary procedures?

How about a forum for boundary procedures?

Subdividing PLSS sections!

Subdividing PLSS sections!

Subdividing PLSS sections!